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Lee Dunne







From the Hill to Hollywood!

A Conversation with
Lee Dunne


He is Ireland's most controversial writer, having had the most banned books by the Irish censors. He is also one of its most popular authors, with his debut novel, Goodbye To The Hill, selling over one million copies. Even his new novel, Dancers of Fortune, is on its way to becoming the biggest blockbusters of the year. So, what is it about Lee Dunne that, even at 70, he remains a compelling relevance to Irish literature? Jason O'Toole goes in search of the man and his art.

It appeared to be a famine, but now it is a feast with Ireland's bestselling and controversial author. Before last year, Lee Dunne hadn't a single novel published since the late '80s. But within the last six months, he has two new books gracing the shelves of your local bookstore. And his latest novel, Dancers of Fortune (2005), looks like it's going to be his most successful novel.
Dunne has penned over 18 novels, including the modern day classic Goodbye To The Hill (1965), which sold over one million copies around the world, and was made into a Hollywood movie. Amazingly, this is his first "historical novel." He has written in almost all types of genres--including crime, espionage, coming-of-age novels, kitchen sink dramas and even sex comedies!
"It's a departure for me, being a historical sort of novel," reveals Dunne, who at the age of 70 last year, was awarded an MA in Scriptwriting--and he got honours no less! "People are saying very good things about Dancers of Fortune already and we have high hopes it's going to be big."
Dancers of Fortune, which is set in Dublin at the beginning of the last century, is a 600-page blockbuster Goodbye To The Hill with twists and dramatic turns on almost every page. The story centres on Sam Sweet, a Dublin Jew, who becomes one of Michael Collins' right-hand men during the 'Easter Rising' of 1916. The novel deals with Sam's complicated love life. The power-hungry Sam dreams about success but his ambitious plans for the business he starts with his lover's rich brother are derailed when he falls in love with a Jewish actress who forces him to re-examine his faith and life.
"Perhaps it's ironic, but Dunne is enjoying another successful period in his career with his new historical love story, exactly 40 years to the day since the publication of Goodbye To The Hill; the book that made his name."
Dunne's blockbuster has been described as the new Strumpet City or Beatrice Coogan's epic The Big Wind. The Sunday Independent described Dancers of Fortune as a tour-de-force which manages to "really capture a time of huge change in Ireland, both for those affected by grinding poverty and for the wealthy".
"I don't know where the story came from," admits Dunne, "I just kept looking up while it was coming through, telling my anonymous donor, just keep sending it pal, it feels real good. The same thing is happening now with the sequel. Lucky me! Lots going on--great from a middle aged guy like me!"
Lucky Dunne "indeed"! While his new novel is flying off the bookshelves in Ireland--fast on its way to becoming one of this year's biggest sellers--Dunne is also in discussions with a top UK producer about turning the novel into a mini-series. And his publishers, Poolbeg, have signed him up for two more sequels - with the second part due for publication next St Patrick's Day.
Perhaps it's ironic, but Dunne is enjoying another successful period in his career with his new historical love story, exactly 40 years to the day since the publication of Goodbye To The Hill; the book that made his name.
"In 1964, I sat down one evening with the idea of writing a short story about a 14 year old kid who rides his bicycle down this hill six days a week for three years, vowing in his own way: 'Someday real soon, I'm going to say goodbye to this place'," explains Dunne who turned that "short story idea" into one of the biggest selling books in Ireland.
"Goodbye wrote itself in six weeks. I typed it up--just the one draft--in three or four hours an evening sessions after I got home from day job as a London taxi driver."
Dunne also adapted Goodbye To The Hill for the stage and it turns out to be Ireland's longest running play of all time and likely to hold onto that title for ever. It ran (six nights a week in a 280 seat situation) for two years and 10 months.
"It is Barleycorn Blues arguably Ireland's most popular play," Dunne explains, "and I still light a thank-you-candle to whatever scriptwriter in the sky dictated it to me so that I could pay the back rent and the coal bill and a long line of creditors. Ten years after that main run of the play people are still talking to me about it on a daily basis. Unbelievable, I know, but I swear this is true and I will produce it again when I find an Angel who wants to back a sure thing."
Dunne is now working with his Irish publishers on bringing out the 40th anniversary edition of Goodbye To The Hill,
"I was knocking on the door of Enlightenment to discover that I was knocking from the inside. In the odd moment that I forget this or something distracts me, I don't judge Lee, I just observe the moment and get on with that which is in front of me."
which will be available later this year.
"I'm happy to record that the book is right now being reassessed and there is a growing opinion among those who decide these things that my novel is seminal to the 1950's."
Amazingly, for a writer so prolific and so relevant it is hard to find much of Dunne 's back catalogue on the shelves of your local Easons! Perhaps it's politics, for Dunne holds the honour of being the most banned author on this island. Out of his 18 books, seven of them: Paddy Maguire is Dead (1972), Midnight Cabbie, The Day Of The Cabbie, The Cabbie Who Came In From The Cold, The Virgin Cabbie and my favourite The Cabfather and a Hollywood movie called 'Paddy' are banned by the censors; their fears being that Dunne's books would be a "bad influence".
Dunne explains: "Paddy was banned over Maureen Toal's perfect breast being seen for a second as she took off her bra to get into bed with lucky Des Cave who was playing me, Paddy being my alter ego. And when you read these titles [Cabbie books] you surely know that these are intended to be funny books, with sex running second to the comedy inherent in the very titles.
"My Cabbie books were seen as soft porn back in the 70s, but today they would be seen as light comedy! How times change!"
I agree. Times indeed have changed. The books that are gracing the shelf of popular bookstores in Ireland make Paddy Maguire is Dead and his hilarious Cabbie series seem rather tame by today's standards.
"Without even trying I became Ireland's most banned author, something like seven books and a pretty good Hollywood screenplay of mine got hit by censorship, and, thank you for asking, yes, it was in the 20th Century, quite late on actually," Dunne tries to laugh it off.
Last October, Dunne had a novel called Barleycorn Blues (2004) Dancers of Fortune released. It is his first novel to be published since the late 80s. He is presently negotiating the television rights of this book with a British production company who plans to make it into a mini-series next year. While he is also considering writing a sequel to "BB" as Dunne refers to Barleycorn Blues.
Dunne readily admits that the "writing bug" is still very much alive in his soul: Barleycorn Blues wrote itself in 10 weeks and I loved being there with it while it was happening. It woke me up even earlier than my usual 6am--I was at the desk and into the days stuff by 5.30--I'd stop every two hours to give my eyes a rest from the screen and I'd take a walk along the seafront at Bray where I live with my wife, Maura."
Today, Dunne can still be found getting up every morning at 5.30am to work on the sequel to Dancers of Fortune. He also has almost an endless list of projects, including a screenplay he just finished for the Irish Film Board, as well as a musical and another two novels he has outlined.
"Never say die; that's my motto," says Dunne.
What a buzz for a man approaching MIDDLE AGE! I must admit that I am fascinated by Dunne's youthful energy, his unquenchable thirst for the good life. What drives this man? What drives Lee Dunne at 70?
"I am driven by what I call divine enthusiasm, the energy of the Universe flows through me and I live to Serve since living in Servitude is a living death. I have a life energy that stems from unattachment even to the fear of death--there is nothing to fear, death being a part of life. I feel blessed to be alive--what a gift, life, even when it seemed harsh, unjust, whatever--it was the teacher then as it is in this moment, the moment in which I live since it is all that is in the moment."
A pause.
"I was knocking on the door of Enlightenment to discover that I was knocking from the inside. In the odd moment that I forget this or something distracts me, I don't judge Lee, I just observe the moment and get on with that which is in front of me. I believe, like Ralph Waldo Emerson that 'what Plato has thought you may think, what a saint has felt you may feel, whatever has befallen any man you can understand.' I have never felt I was doing the writing--if there is a gift it is the one that knows man is a channel--attend to the channel that the rainwater may flow, giving life in its moment."
Another pause.
"I love life, believing every man is my brother, every woman my mother or my sister with one wife (at a time)--People have always mattered to me, I respect every one since I am the Self in all beings, as each being is in all beings. I have done nothing, merely become open, opened by life's lessons--work has been the saviour and a willingness to be open and have a laugh and sing a song at every given opportunity."
Someone once said that all great men are philosophers. Here is a great man! Here is a philosopher! What is Lee Dunne's philosophy of art?
"Think like a god but write like a common man. And just this--may I never come to believe that I write--may I go on believing that I am a channel and that when that channel is attended to in the here and now, a good story may very well emerge. I Keep It Simple and no longer make the mistake of equating Simple with Easy."
Well, well, when I asked the question I had in mind the aesthetics of his art, not his philosopy per se. But does it matter? In the search for artistic Truth and Beauty there is a thin divide between philosophy and aesthetics.

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Contents: Jun-Aug. 05


Fiction

Simon Maslin
Joseph's Pyramid

Zdravka Evtimova
The Magazine

Matthew Fries
Buddha Lamp

Alexandra Kitty
The Birthday Boy of Bingford

David Jordan
Gull

Michael Hulme
Movie


Poetry
(by)


Michael Spring

Moez Surani

Martin Burke


Feature/Essay

Wole Soyinka Society
A Good African Critic

Kate Baggott
The Assumption Chord


Interview

Lee Dunne


FRANkly Speaking!

Fran Cartoon
Eastenders

Book Reviews

The Master
Colm Toibin
The Master

Tatty
Christine Dwyer Hickey
Tatty

Havoc, in It's Third Year
Ronan Bennett
Havoc, in It's Third Year

Swallowing The Sun
David Park
Swallowing The Sun


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